Has anybody checked their HOTZENPELAR account today and the points to cash conversion.

I am disgusted!!

downline = 313

points = 7858.9

conververted to $1.1904

DISGUSTING

LOL

You did better than I did. I stopped clicking anything when this scammer said he would decide how much the points were worth after he saw how much was earned from the ads.

My feeling was - why should I help line his pockets when he can't even tell me how much I am going to get for my efforts. So I stopped clicking at just over 300 points and thought "I'll just wait and see what happens on Nov 1".

I got $0.05. My downline is not that impressive - just 10 people - but I didn't earn a single cent for their efforts.

My take on this whole situation is this: This guy got tired of paying xx amount of dollars to send legitimate paid ads out on other ptrs, so he made his own site. Now he gets to send out his ads, wait to see what he makes for it, and then decide what the ad was worth. This is no different to programs that use surf bars to accumulate points - you never know what you will get at the end of it all.

And he still hasn't filled out the gold membership page - so we all got gold membership, but in the month he has had to think about it, he still hasn't decided what the benefits of it are.

I smell a rat. A big one.

I'm so proud of myself - I made $0.05 this month at Hotzenpelar!!! Yippee. Everyone come join this great program, the rewards are HUGE.

NOT!!!

At the time of writing this, 0:46 am in Melbourne, Australia, there are 1,583 members at Hotzenpelar. I wonder how many will be left this time tomorrow?

(edited to change time - oops, seems my computer clock had stopped?)

I clicked every email I received. I had 1060 points converted to .1601 and 5 in my downline. I don't think so.

I didnt do bad thanks primarily to a good huge downline but I am wondering how long for payout and will there be many paid emails.

According to the WM, there will NEVER be paid emails. I dropped this crappy program about a month ago.

I wonder how he expect people to reach payout. points alone is not going to work. he may not have a program left time members start quitting.

well i am just about to unsub from this one 300 points for a lousy 4 cents no thanks not for the amount of emails i am clicking

bye bye to this one

That conversion rate is not so strange considering the 1500+ gold memberships he has to ''pay''....

I dropped them like a Hot Rock a month ago Right When they posted the Mail About this being a Hobby to and they Would Convert Points to Cash Based on performace of the Site 100 Point Emails a day just promoting his/her own Stuff? No thanks Not Worth the "Free" Gold Membership

I don't remember seeing ONE paid CASH email ever.

Two whole cents for a month. Why thank you, are you sure you could spare it? Keep it. No, really. I insist.

I don't believe in any program like this

I posted this a while back but think it necessary to post again. Read the response I received from the WM about cash vs. points.


dodyruth


original post:

http://www.getpaidforum.com/forums/index.p...tzenpelar&st=30




Posted Oct. 21
Just had to add this. I, too, was a member, being attracted by his offer for a free
gold membership. I am still kind of new @ this, but I also noticed he was sending numerous searches with his own URL's. I decided to email him and ask when members could expect "paid" links, along with "point" links. Below is a copy of the email he sent to me. You can come to your own conclusions. As for me, I am no longer a member.

dodyruth




> name: Darlene
>
> username: dodyruth
>
> subject_type: Earnings/Points Question
>
> bquestion_type: Points ands Cash
>
> message_type: When can we expect to see a few cash ads? Just curious.
>
> Thanks.
>

> Darlene



From: "John" <hotzenpe@hotzenpelar.com> | Add to Address Book
To: dodyruth@
Subject: Re: N/A
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 06:33:56 -0700




Never, unless the advertiser wants to pay for the cash adds,,,,,
Everything is done on points and then converted at the end of the month



This post has been edited by dodyruth on Oct 21 2003, 08:23 AM

this really stinks......I don't want my account deleted.......but I don't do searches so I ignore most of those.....and....well, we'll just have to see.....

Well, I joined, waited a few days and dropped it again. Not worth it even to look at. If it wouldn't be so sad for the people who are hanging in there, this program would be one of the biggest jokes.